Pain is a good thing physically because that is your


self-preservation mechanism

But suffering is something that you do in your mind

So pain that happens in your body

you take it in your mind and multiply it a thousand times or a million times depending on how capable you are and

Suffer it a million times over

right now

Most human beings are like this what happened ten years ago. They can still suffer

What may happen day after tomorrow they already suffer?

They are not suffering life they think they are suffering like they are not suffering life they are suffering the two most

Fantastic faculties that human beings alone have a vivid sense of memory and a fantastic sense of imagination

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Everybody welcome to impact theory

Today's guest is a mystic and New York Times bestselling author who has built one of the largest nonprofit

organizations in the world

named one of the 50 most influential people in all of India not bad considering the country has

1.3 billion people

He has been invited to speak at some of the most prestigious international conferences on the planet including the world

peace summit the United Nations and the World Economic Forum

His mission is to raise every human being to the peak of their potential and to that aim. He established the Isha Foundation

Which with headquarters in both India and the US has implemented several large-scale human?

Service projects designed to uplift rural areas help with education reform and environmental stewardship as well as holistic and healthy living

He's also written several

Profoundly transformational books including inner engineering a Yogi's guide to joy and Adi yogi the source of yoga


Please help me in welcoming the contemporary spiritual leader with millions of global followers

the man who has cracked irreverent jokes everywhere from MIT to Google on things both mystical and highly practical the

Uncompromising said guru

Welcome I am beyond excited to have you on the show

Going and looking at your

What you're trying to accomplish in the world?

is very much in line with what we're trying to do in terms of human potential which I think is super exciting, but we definitely

We go about it in very different ways and reading your book

I was really

impacted and so

Getting to dive deeper into this I think is gonna be a lot of fun and I think the first place to start

walk me through what you mean by

Potential like what? What do you think is human potential?

So yeah every Christian

From a worm insect bird plant tree everybody

All of them are trying to be full-fledged lives

If one sees

What's happening beneath earth in terms of the root systems?

It is an enormous effort

for a plant or a tree to become a

full-fledged tree

Well an apple tree is not trying to be an oak tree

but an apple tree wants to be a full-fledged apple tree that

Effort is on in every life

So is it in human beings?

But the problem with Humanity is just this

That for every other creature

Nature has drawn two lines

Within these two lines they live and die

So their idea of full-fledge is hitting the ceiling of their life

But if a human being hits a ceiling he gets frustrated and miserable


Nature this process of evolution has delivered to us to a place where there is only the bottom line

There is no top line though. Some human beings are trying to breach the bottom line and go below

That what else is going on

so essentially what human life is is

When life was in the other forms of life that you see on the planet

Nature determined a certain compulsive instinctive ways of functioning once you become human

These lines have been removed

You can act consciously

That means what you call as human potential is not of any kind of measurable limit

It can go as far as you desire or us as far as you have the courage to walk

So when we say human potential unleashing human potential

It is not about reaching the peak

It is a trajectory

Because what our life is

Is a combination of a certain amount of time and energy?

Time is rolling away for all of us at the same pace

If you sit it rolls away if you sleep it rolls away

If you do something it goes away. If you don't do anything, it goes away. You're happier miserable it goes away

Time is running out for all of us

so it's only the energy that you can

do different things with if you bring your energies to a certain level of intensity and


What somebody does in 10 years, you may do it in one year this means if you live here

400 years it feels like in people's in impact that you're created. It feels like you lived here for a thousand years

Simply because you have managed your life energies in a certain way

So for me a human being being impactful means

How conscious have you become this is very important because if you're in compulsive cycles

then your energy gets wasted in so many things if you absorb people

In a day, let's say let's take 24 hours in that. Anyway, most people buy prescription in America. They sleep for eight hours

So eight hours means one-third of life is gone in the remaining two-thirds they have to eat they have to you know shower

Bathroom this that all this another two three hours gone

So literally 50% of life is gone daily basis just for basic maintenance of this life

50% of the time is gone and maintenance

Remaining 50% what they have

If you look at every single move that they may make with their body their thought process their emotions

You will see a whole lot of it is happening in compulsive cycles

Or in other words if you a little sensitive to life, you will realize you are the biggest issue in your life

So this is one thing that I'm trying to do with people that you are never the issue in your life

I am NOT the issue my thought my emotion my body is never the issue

My thought my emotion my energy and my body are my instruments. It's a function

They are not impediments in my life

But I would say for 90% of the human beings their own body

Then the compulsions of the body the compulsions of their thought the compulsions of their emotions are ruling them most of the time

So when you yourself for a problem?

Well, you're on self-help

So, how do you begin to break out of that like if we're all stuck in these compulsive patterns

How do you gain the consciousness that you're talking about and begin to I don't know if the words go beyond elevate

Like how do you stop being in that endless cycle?

Everybody wants a solution, but nobody wants to delve into the problem and see what is the nature of the problem that we have

The nature of the problem is like this

Why are we compulsive? What is it? That's compulsive about us

Compulsion means we are going to the same place again. And again, that means we're going in circles

The nature of physical existence in the universe is such whether you take an atom an individual atom or the cosmic space

Everything that's physical is always in cyclical moment

The atoms are doing their circles. The solar system is doing his stuff. The galaxies are doing their stuff

Our own bodies are going through cycles. In fact, we are born because of the cycles in our mother's bodies

That's why we are born

So entire physical nature is born out of cyclical moment. That means compulsiveness. So do not misunderstand

Compulsiveness as something bad. It's the basis of your existence

It is a good platform

But you're supposed to stand on the platform and act

Right. Now you have become the platform. So somebody else will dance on you

Interesting. That's so my thing and part of what drives me is getting

Getting efficient at achieving your goal

Which I'm sure is less their goal for you. So for me, I I am interested in


executing on my potential so

Transferring my ability to do something into the actual thing

So the easy example I give people is what does what does impact mean for you leaving a footprint?

Not quite so I have a very specific kind of impact that I'm trying to have which is to help people

Actuate their potential so I think that a lot of people

They are capable of extraordinary things and I think that to your point about joy

I think one of the things that's absolutely foundational to joy is growth

And so getting people on a path where they believe it that way. That's

Foundational to joy joy is foundational to growth, isn't it?

Probably yes, but I don't have an insight as to what came first

Which is exactly why you're here. No, no, there is substantial medical and scientific evidence to show that

Only when you're in a pleasant state of experience your body and your brain works at its best there's no argument about them

There's enough evidence to show that

So whatever impact or success or reaching goals or growth or whatever you say on

One level in the physical world. It's about how well you harness your physiological and your psychological process, isn't it?

Whether your body and mind works against you or works for you. This is a big difference

So there is enough evidence to show only when you're in pleasant levels of experience this happens best

So obviously joy is first

then growth if you're joyful constantly and you have no fear of suffering because

you understand all human experience comes from within you and

So you have managed to create the kind of experience that you want now growth is possible and riddled

If you have the fear of falling down and suffering, you will not go very high, isn't it?

So, how do you work through that? How do you help people on that path?

Many ways to look at it. One of the simplest ways to see it is all human experience has a chemical basis to it

Right now let us say your joyful

If you look at your chemistry, it'll be in a certain way

Let's say your miserable. If you check your chemistry, it'll be a completely different way

now we have a technology that

With which you create a chemistry of blissfulness

So my chemistry is blissful doesn't matter what's happening

The drama around me is happening in so many different ways but

This is a privilege that I have kept for myself

Me being joyful or miserable

me being peaceful or


These privileges have not given it to anybody else. I kept them to myself

I think every human being should do that that the privileges of the nature of your experience must be in your hand

because when you try to act in the world

There are many many forces

All of them will not always cooperate

Sometimes they cooperate many times

They will not cooperate many times. They'll turn against you. This is the nature of the world. That's how it should be

World will never happen hundred percent your way. And I'm glad it is so because if it all happened your way, where do I go?

I'm glad it's not happening your way little bit my way little bit your way a little bit. Somebody else's way

That's how the world should be. It's very interesting

Is there a way to avoid?

Falling into those traps. Like I know that you've taken some


different approaches at least from

American set of eyes to raising your daughter and not wanting her not wanting to put a lot of teachings on her


That to avoid dogma. Is it to avoid closing doors?

because you think you know something like how do we if we were gonna have kids and raise them in a way that

Stopped them from falling into some of these traps. What would we do?

How many parents were there

And encourage their children not to be identified with parents

Not to be identified with a religion that they follow

Not to be identified with their racial and national and other prejudices that they hope

The all thing the things are sacred, isn't it? Yes

These are the things which destroy human potential

whether you want to turn a human being

see I see this term when it

Really hurts me when people say it's very common only in America. I hear this I was raised as

Whatever Catholic or Baptist or a Christian or Muslim or whatever else I was raised

See, you must raise only cattle and sheep

You don't raise human beings. You have to cultivate a human being

you have to give space and give support of love and support so that a human being grows because

Every human being is capable of a unique possibility

Raising means what a flock is what you race you don't raise an individual, isn't it? That's very interesting


for this

We need to come to a certain level of maturity within ourselves

The most fundamental thing is our children need not look like us do not think like us need not act like us

Need not be as in any way a child is not a legacy

It's a life and

It is an individual life

It has to be what it has to be


if I do not influence right now the fear is if I do not influence somebody on the street will influence the child on the

Social media, they will influence the child. So to

to cultivate a child so that

They know

That the intrinsic intelligence and being human is more important than being influenced by this or that it doesn't matter what it is

Whether it's parentage, or it's a priest or it's a guru or it's a pundit. It doesn't matter who

Influence is not important. What is important is the intrinsic intelligence finding its full potential?

And do you think is we grow up in a modern context that?

We can

avoid adopting those

Beliefs you talked one time. I thought this is so interesting about how every time you get a belief

It's like a conclusion and every conclusion is a death unto itself and it's like shutting a door on something. Yes other ways

See you just see

You look at your own picture when you were 5 years of age. It's like this

Slowly it's becoming like this. What is it you're dying in installments

The more conclusions you make the less alive you become this all that's happened to people they call this knowledge

This is not knowledge. This is just conclusions that you're drawing about everything

See with all this scientific

Exploration the fact is that even today we do not know one single atom in its entirety

We know how to use them

we know how to use everything on this planet, but we don't know what damn thing about anything over 90% or

99% of an atom is empty. We don't know what that emptiness


Over 99% of the cosmos is empty. We don't know what that is

So this is like I give you a million piece. Jigsaw

But you found in your hands you have only three of them

With these three you make a picture and you're euphoric that you made a picture

Well, I'm sorry

There are million pieces to this

Has anybody gather all the pieces now, then don't make a picture?

You've talked about the only way to really make change is to turn inward

As we look inward turn inward go inward

What are we?

Are we working on awareness consciousness?

like what is the

See right now, what are the instruments of your experience?

You know, you're here only because you can see hear smell

Taste and touch. This is the only way you know that you're here right now

Suppose you doze off don't okay suppose you doze off

You don't know that you're here, isn't it? Yes

Even though you're here your heart is beating everything is functioning

The world is on we are all here

But you won't know that you're here nor will you know that I'm here or anybody else is here, isn't it?

Yes, all that's happened is life is on full on even within you only thing is these five

Sensory organs have shut down

So your entire experience of life right now is happening because you can see hear smell taste and touch

Just look at the nature of the sensory organs in the very nature their outward bound, isn't it?

Can you roll your eyeballs inward and scan yourself now?

There is a shall I give you a bad example, sir

Your our nose is located now right above our mouth suppose you don't brush your teeth for three days

Though this nose is right here it won't tell you you have not brushed your teeth

The whole room will know you have not brushed your teeth, but you will not know this is the human predicament

It's very easy to see what's wrong with this guy what's wrong with her what's wrong with her

It's very it takes a lot of observation to see what's wrong with this

that level of keenness of observation is missing in most people they need to cultivate that and

So it's tempting to when reading your book and hearing your story. It's tempting to

Say oh this is how he cultivated that whether it's sitting in the tree that was swaying and then doing swaying meditation

Is that actually how you cultivated it or is there something else because somebody watching right now?

they they want to be able to begin to access this and

If it's a simple letting go of belief and Dogma or if it's awareness of this

Belief, and Dogma is not simple. Mmm

It's not simple people are who they are only because of what they believe and what they have a hell like that

Because without this they don't know where they belong

To live here without belonging to anything but still involved with everything

Takes a lot

Most people belong but they're not involved

It is like belonging is like an insurance policy. It's simply their

involvement takes you

To be constantly involved with people around you. It takes you to be conscious and on

but I belong to you I

Don't have to do anything. I have professed already. I belong to you. I'm married to you. I belong to you

Legally it is settled

So I don't have to be conscious of you nor do I have to be involved with you still I belong to you

so belonging means


believing or

Identifying simply means you have found a way to sleep through your life. It's called sleep

when we say, you know people usually use this term with

Animals, if you said we put our cat to sleep

What does it mean to you?

For real that they killed their hair. Yes

So I'm talking about sleep in that context. I

Believe this I belong to this. I'm identified with this means it's sleep

That means you're partially dead you made conclusions which takes away the life that bubbles within you

this is why people are walking around like

They're dying in installments

Yeah, so the notion of

not knowing the notion of responsibility are two things that are

Really powerful and can I just connect the two agent? Yeah

Not knowing is not a notion it's a fact okay

It's not a notion. You really do not know damn thing about this existence, isn't it? Yes

We don't even know a blade of grass in its entirety. We do not know a single item in its entirety

We do not know a single cell in this body in its complete context. We do not

We know some things we can manipulate a few things, but we don't know much about it. So

It's like this, let's say we turn off all the lights

If the lights are on you can whistle and just walk around wherever you want in this building

We'll turn off all the lights and make it pitch dark where you can't even see your own hand like that

Now every step that you take will you take it in but most alertness?

Will you be fully awake or asleep?

For your wake only awake why because you don't know where the next step

Just to live like this if you simply live like this

Naturally you are on the highway to enlightenment

Everybody assume and believe because it's comfortable

To simply believe something the very word belief means this

That I have concrete concrete iced assumptions of which I know nothing about

Isn't it? Mm-hmm?

Isn't it so yeah

Either, you know, or you do not know where does the belief come from?

When you pretend what you do not know as I know

That's belief

But you can't believe something all by yourself

So you need a hundred people around you? That's why always believers are in groups

Seekers are alone

Talk to me about a seeker. What what is the seeker? Is that something useful to cultivate?

You don't have to cultivate this. This is intrinsic to human intelligence if you do not bullshit yourself

With all kinds of things that you do not know as you know

Its intrinsic to human intelligence to seek

Isn't it? Yes, you don't have to teach seeking you have to teach belief systems

You don't have to teach seeking if you don't teach anything

Everybody is a seeker. It is the nature of human intelligence. It naturally seeks

But people want to seek with the comfort of belief

They want to be in the belief system and then seek

this is like tying your boat to the pier and then

Rowing hard, it's good. It's not bad because it gives you good exercise. It's like being on the treadmill

Most people are on the treadmill because they are not walking or running to go somewhere

They just trying to turn their muscles. It's perfectly fine. So

If that's all you wish to do, it's fine

But if you want to go somewhere you can't tie your boat and then row, isn't it?

If you just let it go even if you don't row it will go

What do you tell people about responsibility

It's just your ability to respond. You have to make up your mind. Do you want to retain your ability to respond to?

every situation that may arise or may not arise in your life or

Do you want to surrender your ability to respond? This is something everybody should make up their mind on

do you have

Practices to keep yourself so open and so joyful


That's what else

Life is an openness

Death is closing, isn't it?

That is a closure

Life is a possibility if you're just alive everything is open

Tell me can you be alive suppose you don't like me?

So you don't want to inhale what I exhale

Stop breathing and exist for some time. Let me see possible. Yes without breathing for a little while

How is little how much is little for you to hold my breath yeah, I don't know 30 second second ten minutes

Definite eminence. So I'm saying if you don't like me your dislike will not go away in 30 seconds, isn't it?

Yeah, for sure suppose. I hate you. I don't want to breathe. Inhale what you exhale? Hmm. I

Will die within myself, isn't it? Yes

This all people are doing to themselves. I like this guy. I don't like that guy

This is somebody I allow that somebody I hate this is belongs to me. This doesn't belong to me

They just killing themselves step by step

They are planning to die in inch

If you want to live here you are

You must make up your mind whether you want to live or you want to die

You want to know the certainty of death in life?

This is called belief. This is called belonging. This is called identification

Because you are trying to find the certainty of death in the seamless process of life

It's very interesting

When you I mean you spend a lot of time

Speaking. What do you hope people take away? Is there one core thing that you really want people to be touched by?

Fundamentally if people understand that the source of human experience is within you

Joy are misery agony or ecstasy

pleasure or pain

Everything comes from within you if you understand this much

if I understand

Suppose right now. I think I'm miserable because of you. Hmm. There's no solution for my life, isn't it?

Because all you have to do is walk in front of my home. I will become miserable

So simple it is you don't have to kill me you just have to walk around in front of me

I will die within myself every day

If I understand the source of my joy and misery within me

Then you know, what's the obvious choice?


Obvious choice, isn't it?

So this one fundamental thing has to get across to all the human beings on this planet

Your experience is entirely determined by you

This is what the word karma means. Unfortunately. It's become something else here

karma means action

that means

When we say your life is your karma. We are saying your life is entirely your making 100%

What happens in the world? There are many many forces involved what happens within me. It's 100 percent me

100 percent, isn't it? Yes if you don't take charge of this

Then you're an accidental life when you're an accidental life anxiety is very natural

Naturalistic hmm suppose you are driving


That is you don't know what's happening and you simply somehow going anxiety is natural or no? Yes

Any accidental moment creates anxiety?

So this is why consciousness means this that you have taken charge of the instruments of life

Which on most fundamental level is our physiological and psychological space you have taken charge of this?

Now your health your happiness your joy your ecstasy your misery. Everything is in your hands you

Exercise them as you want

Going back to what you said about focus in your book you talk about something

I thought was so interesting to set the faucet to a certain drip rate and do nothing but

Focus on the dripping of the faucet for like seven minutes or something

What idea is to pay attention to something which has no relevance to you?

say people have

Have divided the universe. This is important. This is not important. This person is important for me

This person is not important to me. This is important for me. That's not important for me

You divided the universe you will never know anything this way

indiscriminate focus

Indiscriminate attention. I'm not attending to you because you are somebody with a cobra in your heart. All right

It doesn't matter who I speak to who I am with and the same way


Only when your attention and involvement is indiscriminate

Does the universe open up to you?

You have discriminated

Naturally you close, you know people come to me and say Sadhguru. I want to walk the spiritual path. I

Say, okay

Be here for three days

Let's see what we can say no such group day after tomorrow. My uncle's daughter's birthday. I have to go

oh you want to get enlightened and

Day after tomorrow uncle's daughter's birthday also. All right, we got one and a half days

You do one thing you do this this and this as a circle, but I don't like this

All right, I give them a small piece of paper

And say okay write down things that you like we'll do only don't do that

You won't believe it in this entire universe. Most people like only three or four things

When you're so constipated in your head

That you like only three or four people are three or four things in your life

How do you want to open up to the existence?

Because life is happening because of its openness

This is a fundamental difference between death and life is

People are thinking is just breath

All right on one level that is also openness whether you allow this to happen or you don't allow it to happen

Whether you did it consciously or unconsciously, but it's happening

Isn't it openness is on every subatomic particle is in communication with everything?

That's why this is going on breath is happening so much is happening in connection with everything. It is only in openness

You're alive as you

Close doors you are dying in installments

Dying in installments is torture


Life is fantastic. If you're alive and fully alive, if you're dead, it's good. At least the neighbors may think so

This may sound very

not so compassionate, but I'm saying

Everybody dies you and me will die. All right

if you dead it's the game is over, but if you're half dead, oh

This is endless torture to yourself when you are being tortured, of course, you'll share it with everybody else

Talk to me about your motorcycle accident and having to have your calf served back together, which is without anesthesia

How's that possible? Not that young anymore?

Today I would

But the notion of the difference between pain and suffering I thought was very useful

The pain is physiological its death. It was no pain. Most people would not even know how to protect themselves

See just because there's no pain in the sea. What all you've done to it

Hmm see there's no pain in this so that's why you took it off if there's no pain in your nose

Maybe you would have taken it off

Because they're many advantages you will take in about 22% extra oxygen if you just remove this one thing contraption

Wherever there is no pain people are messing with it like crazy, isn't it? They call this hairstyle they call it so many things

suppose there was no pain in the entire body in Los Angeles people would pull out their stomach bag and

You think they wouldn't do it not the father one

Only pain is helping them to preserve themselves. Isn't it? The pain is good. There's no physiological pain

Most people would not know I here in the United States. There's one group they call themselves something. I forget that word

They're actually cutting their fingers off their hands off on the video

Well, they're posting it online

There's a group like that. Whoa. Can you imagine now in spite of so much pain if there is no pain?

Almost everybody would have cut themselves off in so in the name of fashion, they would have cut themselves into ribbons

so pain is a good thing physically because that is your

preservation self preservation mechanism

But suffering is something that you do in your mind

So pain that happens in your body

You take it in your mind and multiply it a thousand times or a million times depending on how capable you are

or how stupid you are and

Suffer it a million times over

right now

Most human beings are like this what happened ten years ago. They can still suffer

What may happen day after tomorrow they already suffer?

They are not suffering life they think they are suffering life they are not suffering life they are suffering the two most

Fantastic faculties that human beings alone have a vivid sense of memory and a fantastic sense of imagination

why do you think that depression and

Anxiety suicide are so rampant right now

See one thing is

The survival process has become easier than ever before

Believe me in the morning if you need a bucket full of water

If you had to walk a mile to the river to get one bucket of water

And your family needed 25 buckets of water

You would have no time to mess yourself

Now you have a lot of time to mess yourself because our survival is better organized than ever before

Another thing is most human beings do not know how to manage their biochemistry

Without physical activity. I have seen a whole lot of people particularly

Teenage boys and girls between the ages of 12 and 16 who come to me with some severe

Violent problems within themselves if you leave them like that. They may kill themselves or kill somebody else that in that kind of state

many of them have even killed their parents, you know, it just happened all over the world and

In 2017 when I came to know that in India

Which is not so much suicidal in that sense because there's a huge family support and stuff like that in spite of that

In 2017 eighteen thousand six hundred children below 18 years of age committed suicide

out of which

7,200 are below 15 years of age

So 12 13 14 year-olds

Who must be bubbling with life or?

Wanting to take their own lives why?

Obviously, we're doing something fundamentally wrong with the society, isn't it?

Yes, our goals and our stupid ideas of what is success is driving them nuts

Because we are trying to use our children like racehorses that's interesting and

when you say that is something to that represent us that we've turned into something amazing or

In what way are they like racehorses when you understand as a race?

If you're in a race what subjective you must reach the finish line quick, isn't it?

Yes, what is the finish line of your life death?

There you have it. This may not be a conscious process. But life with the new is understanding it like that

When you see you must understand this whether you are conscious it of a conscious of it or not any human being?

Right now if you make yourself miserable

You must understand you are sending a message to every cell in the body that I don't want to live

You might not have articulated it in your head yet

But when you become miserable

You notice suddenly your body seems heavy and it's like doesn't want to get up from this chair

Have you seen this? Yes when you're happy, you're willing to bounce it everything and do everything bend backwards if necessary

Why this is happening is the message has gone to every cell in the body. This guy wants to die

They're all thinking, okay, what can we do to help him but by then, of course you'll recover

So you want to die you want to live you want to die you want to live?

The body is getting confused

Because you must understand this is a very intelligent body. It's taking instructions from you

Every cell in the body has an enormous sense of memory and intelligence

If you keep sending wrong messages if they act you did

Because you're sending contradictory messages. You are not dead. You're half dead

You can give it any number of exotic names essentially you have turned your intelligence against yourself

This is supposed to work for you, but now you've turned it against yourself it's working against you

Yeah, I know I'm putting words in your mouth which is very dangerous

but the whole notion of being happy

I feel like you really address how to live fully in your book

inner engineering which I was just really really impacted by if you had to

Define what inner engineering is exactly how would you say it?

Say do you agree with me that our lives today as a generation of people?

Has become far more

comfortable and far more convenient

simply because of our understanding of science and


Exploitation of that knowledge as technology. Yes. Hmm

We are the most comfortable generation ever in the history of humanity. No question about it

Isn't it? Yes, we are super empowered because of the science and technology as it is a science and technology

For our external well-being there is a whole science and technology for inner well-being

Unfortunately most cultures have ignored this and

thinking that if we make all the external arrangements well

Everything will be okay

The United States of America is a huge statement that this is not how it works

The most affluent country on the planet

70% of the population are supposed to be on prescription medication. Yeah Wow

What's the best way for people to interact with you?

They don't have to interact with me because learn from me maybe


We can talk if inspiration is what you need encouragement was what you need. I'm willing to talk

But talks will not bring solutions

They will bring some clarity

Solution will come only when you take a proper inward step. That's what inner engineering process is

We are doing everything possible to deliver it in as simple and as practical measures as it can be done

There was a time it was thought in such a complex way

Today we have simplified it broken into five different pieces

Offering it as five layers of program so that people can experience it in small doses and slowly step by step

They can go I am seeing as you come into more and more affluent societies their steps are far more, babe

steps than other people so

We've broken it into many steps so that small steps

You can take one by one and your website is the best place for that. Yes. Okay. It's a good place to go. Perfect

Yessir dot said guru dot org, that's what it's called. Okay, and we'll link to that as well. Our organization is 100% volunteer organization

So we're not professional in our approach and I'm very proud of that because I am NOT interested

In how much somebody is doing? I am very interested in how they're doing it because that's what changes the quality of who we are

Because the content of our life will not change our life it is the context of our life which changes our life

That's interesting. Very interesting because you content you have changed and you see people are not happy

Content of our life is

Phenomenally enhanced compared to how our grandparents lived here. Isn't it? Even in this country? Yes

Definitely, how can people change their context?

That's what engineering is about if your contact shifts from your psychological and physiological

process to the life process that you are

Everything has changed

Because we must understand this as we sit here this is my body that's your body. This is my mind that's your mind

But there's no such thing as this is my life. And that's your life if this is a living cosmos

Everybody is free to capture as much as they want if you capture

substantial amount of life

Your very presence will become a significant life

Otherwise, you will become a mediocre life. This is the important thing. It's not the knowledge you gather in your head

It's not the muscle that you gather in your body. It's the life

How much of a life for you?

This will make you significant in your very presence if world gives us an opportunity

We will do something impactful. Otherwise, we're just a significant presence a

huge oak tree standing outside

It is not trying to create an impact. It is just impactful if you go under its shade you feel it

Otherwise also it's impactful

Most people notice it only when it's gone

What is the impact that you want to have on the world

When I was twenty-five years of age when suddenly things burst forth within me and I realized if I sit here

without messing myself

Naturally, I'm bursting with ecstasy and every cell in my body drips ecstasy. I

Thought initially I'm going off my rocker

Then again and again when I saw over a period of six to eight weeks

When I saw if I just close my eyes, I just burst into ecstatic states

So I clearly realized

If I don't mess with my physiological and psychological process

ecstasy is the only way to be

Nothing to be done. You don't have to do anything when I realized this. I

Sat down and actually planned on that day. The world's population was 5.6 billion people. I

Made a plan in two and a half years time that I will make the world ecstatic

No fool like a young fool, you know


It's been 37 years

Not two and a half years

Well, people say we have touched over 500 million people or so

Don't say whoa. You don't walk my failures

Yeah, I guess this was my idea of humanity seven point six billion people

500 million people

Time going away. I'm

Condemned to die a failure, but I'm a blissful failure. All right, so

What we need is just this do you want to live in a

Beautiful world means what?

beautiful does not mean just a beautiful view of the ocean or

something else

beautiful means

Human life here is pleasant

Within every human being the question is not about what I wear what I Drive where I live, but how I am within myself

See what we can do in the world is a question of times in which time of history we exist accordingly we do things

If we were here hundred years ago, we wouldn't be recording all this stuff. All right, we would be doing something different

But human experience is constant

Whichever generation you are you can either be blissed-out or misery

always forever it has been so and it will be so so

What we can do in the world is subject to many realities of the times

But how we can be within ourselves is always a possibility

So what is always a possibility must be manifested whether you will run faster than mr

Bolt or not whether you will climb Mount Everest or not. This is not the point

those things are subject to individual tastes and individual likes and dislikes but

Will your experience of life on this planet be pleasant or not? At least this one thing?

We must determine that every human beings experience of life on this planet is pleasant that much we must do and it's doable

That is incredible

Sokurah thank you so much for being on the show. That was absolutely incredible. Thank you for your time

Guys, I can't recommend his book highly enough. Check it out inner engineering

It's phenomenal if you haven't already be sure to subscribe and until next time my friends be legendary. Take care

Thank you again so much. Wow, that was really

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